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#2108066 - 02/14/12 01:02 PM Re: We need a LOT more Canadian Input [Re: Graceti]
peachiekeen444 Offline


Registered: 12/16/10
Loc: Cambridge, Massachusetts
Do you think that perhaps the administration would consider or is considering giving Canada its own listing in the forums like the US has rather than placing it as a category under North America? Perhaps with all the great changes its time has come.

Also, I wonder if maybe allowing for photo requests might be in the works one day. That would be great. I have two relatives in Canada who enjoy graving and would totally participate. Granted they both live in places where photo opportunities are curtailed for several months a year due to the weather...

Is there some manner to ask the admins about their plans for Canada at this time?

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#2108070 - 02/14/12 01:07 PM Re: We need a LOT more Canadian Input [Re: peachiekeen444]
peachiekeen444 Offline


Registered: 12/16/10
Loc: Cambridge, Massachusetts
One other question -- is there any way to see a breakdown of where contributors are from? I know some people do not list actual locations, but many probably do. That would be interesting.

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#2108101 - 02/14/12 01:56 PM Re: We need a LOT more Canadian Input [Re: peachiekeen444]
susanr Offline


Registered: 07/21/07
Loc: Burnaby, BC Canada
Mark is working on the Photo Requests but it will take a lot of changes to the database as each Province & Territory needs to be broken down. I know that he has been working on it and in the Help Forum it shows the breakdown he is working on for each area.

I don't know how he is going to do the Photo Requests. With our Postal codes, they change with an area. I know that I live within 30-45 minutes of 6 different cemeteries and they all have different postal codes.

I think when they first did this forum set-up, there was a breakdown of Canada by Province but because there wasn't much use, we went back to this way.

I don't think there is a way to see where people are from unless they list it.
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#2108462 - 02/14/12 06:37 PM Re: We need a LOT more Canadian Input [Re: susanr]
Graceti Offline


Registered: 05/14/11
Loc: Quebec
I really don't think there are enough contributors/volunteers at Find A Grave, in Canada, to ever have something similar to the US system of photo requests.

I say just add the button to cemeteries in Canada - people with click on it. I like to visit cemeteries. Before I go, I would check to see if there are any requests. If I know I'm going to my cottage for the weekend, I can check for requests at the cemeteries in that area. Keep it simple. Forget the postal codes, the email to a volunteer etc. Don't try to make it a system like the US.
Of course some rural areas may never have photos added and then in much of Quebec your chances of getting a photo are slim to none.

I like Canada listed in the North America forum - surrounded by all those warm Caribbean countries (?Greenland) I feel like I'm going on vacation every time I click on Canada.

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#2108479 - 02/14/12 07:00 PM Re: We need a LOT more Canadian Input [Re: Graceti]
peachiekeen444 Offline


Registered: 12/16/10
Loc: Cambridge, Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: Graceti


I say just add the button to cemeteries in Canada - people with click on it. I like to visit cemeteries. Before I go, I would check to see if there are any requests. If I know I'm going to my cottage for the weekend, I can check for requests at the cemeteries in that area. Keep it simple. Forget the postal codes, the email to a volunteer etc. Don't try to make it a system like the US.


That is a great idea if I understand what you mean. You're saying create a button and a means to request a photo, but don't have the notification process. Allow interested people to look at a Canadian cemetery and see the requests.

I like that and think it could be very helpful without the need to deal with the zip code issues. Good thinking.

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#2108581 - 02/14/12 09:02 PM Re: We need a LOT more Canadian Input [Re: peachiekeen444]
Graceti Offline


Registered: 05/14/11
Loc: Quebec
That's pretty much what I mean. I know the cemeteries in my area I want to visit. If I know that tomorrow is going to be a good weather day - I look to see if there are any requests.

This idea was posted somewhere else - I don't remember the where or the who.
But it is simple and could be implemented practically overnight. There are about a dozen cemeteries at this time here in Quebec with requests attached, but no button. Doesn't really matter how the request got there, but you can be sure I looked at those cemeteries right away. In fact there is one about twenty minutes from where I am. I will be going as soon as I can.

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#2123470 - 03/03/12 10:13 PM Re: We need a LOT more Canadian Input [Re: Graceti]
mrbigglesworth Offline


Registered: 03/02/12
Loc: British Columbia
Ever need help on Sunshine Coast of BC..Canada i can help....or eve n Powell River...There is an old grave yard up side of a mountain near Gibsons BC...pioneers grave yard, i think.
I would never go alone..more cougars now..yikes...
but there is also a proper grave yard near Roberts Creek...and one near Pender Harbour...and one in Powell River..if ever u need a look up

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#2123477 - 03/03/12 10:17 PM Re: We need a LOT more Canadian Input [Re: mrbigglesworth]
mrbigglesworth Offline


Registered: 03/02/12
Loc: British Columbia
the one in pender harbour is suppose to be a special thing too...not sure just all white crosses, that can be seen from road...highway 101

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#2123935 - 03/04/12 01:37 PM Re: We need a LOT more Canadian Input [Re: mrbigglesworth]
Mark Offline

Patience is a Virtue

Registered: 03/20/06
Loc: Indiana
Cemeteries without a Province should no longer be an issue. This was caused by the 'add new cemetery' option not pulling geo data directly from the database. This was one of a few locations on the site that still use hard coded information. This particular one has been updated and now pulls information directly and forces you to select a Province before a town. The Cemetery Search page is also one that is currently hard coded, but will also be updated but there is no ETA for it.

There is a Province Breakdown Proposal in the Help Forum. This is the current planned structure to break down the Provinces into "County" level equivalents.

The current issue with Photo Requests include:

1. Currently only allows US requests
2. Currently based on US Zip Codes and GPS of the cemetery or County the cemetery is located
3. Geo Database only includes GPS for towns and Counties. Thus countries without a county level equivalent can not make the calculation. The distance from the centroid of the Zip to the GPS of the cemetery can make for interesting distance calculations when you are not near the centroid of the Zip.

Eventually, the plan is to move away from the Zip Code and into selecting your location via a map similiar to when adding GPS to a cemetery. Or possibly using the geolocation feature built into HTML5. Geolocation is highly accurate when using wireless connections, but not so much when using wired connections. Picking your location via a map or wireless geolocation increases the distance calculation, although the calculation is still as the bird flies.

The following countries are prepped for an update to county level equivalents: France, Italy, and Lithuania. However, this can not happen until the final portion of the State level equivalents is cleaned up. See Geography Updates for more information. 234 countries will have State level equivalents and 150 countries will have County level equivalents.

There are currently 5902 place names in Canada, all of which will need to be assigned to a county level equivalent.

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#2124108 - 03/04/12 04:57 PM Re: We need a LOT more Canadian Input [Re: Mark]
Graceti Offline


Registered: 05/14/11
Loc: Quebec

Thanks for the update.

I look forward to "County" level equivalents for Canadian provinces. I use the 832 code to search and this works for now, but I am finding alot of Quebec cemeteries that are not in the correct town/city, one has the city listed as Montreal and a map location in Kyrgyzstan -- neither are correct!!
I'll be keeping you busy on the Fix forum.

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