#1871723 - 05/12/11 04:32 PM
Clarence Justus of Arkansas
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I am doing a Family Tree and have run into a couple of bumps.. One is that I can not find any information on my great-grandfather. I know his name was Clarence Justus and he had 3 children with my great-grandmother (Zona Mann) I have been told that he was born in the early 1900's and died around 1930. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it... Thanks, Jessica
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#1871736 - 05/12/11 04:58 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: jessica73]
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Registered: 12/31/07
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I was just reading Zona's obit, did she really outlive four husbands?
There are two Justus boys in her obit, Aubrey (alive at the time of her death) and Fred (deceased). The third must have been a daughter and there are four married daughters listed.
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#1871746 - 05/12/11 05:15 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: greyfox]
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Registered: 12/31/07
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I'm just posting these as additional info that may help locate Clarence:
Deceased Name: Aubrey Lee Justus Aubrey Lee Justus, 83, died Oct. 17, 2007, at Hutchinson Hospital.
He was born May 16, 1924, in Sitka, Ark., the son of Clarence and Zona Mann Justus. A longtime resident of Michigan, moving to Hutchinson in 1990, he retired from Michigan Gas and Electric Co., after 33 years, in 1986.
He attended The Corner Stone Baptist Church, Hutchinson. He served in the U.S. Army during World War II.
On Sept. 17, 1948, he married Elsie Mae Kincaid in Lake City, Ark. She survives.
Other survivors include: two sons, Billy Ray and wife, Linda, Hutchinson, and Jimmy Wayne and wife Bonnie, Dowagiac, Mich.; five daughters, Cathleen Finley and husband, Ben, Arkansas, Clara Mae Granger, Dowagiac, Mich., Wanda Lee Nielson and husband, Don, Decatur, Mich., Shirley Lorene Stroud, Stevensville, Mich., and Carolyn Jean Hughey, Alabama; two sisters, Eula Mae Wilson and husband Hubert, Dowagiac, Mich., and Mary Lee Finn and husband, Jack, Centerville, Wash.; 19 grandchildren; and 31 great-grandchildren.
He was preceded in death by two sons, Johnny Lee and Aubrey Glenn Justus; three brothers; two sisters; a son-in-law, Michael Allan Granger; and a grandson.
Funeral will be at 11 a.m. Wednesday at McLauchin Funeral Home, Dowagiac, Mich. Visitation will be from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. Saturday at Elliott Mortuary, Hutchinson, with the family present from 2 to 4 p.m. Burial will be in Mission Hills Memorial Gardens, Niles, Mich.
Memorials may be sent to The Corner Stone Baptist Church, in care of the funeral home.
Personal condolences may be sent to www.elliottmortuary.com
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#1871747 - 05/12/11 05:16 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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I am pretty sure she did! I have never been told that she was ever divorced, but I am not 100% positive? I know she lived to her 90's? It shocked me as well when I first saw her obituary:) I guess I need more information on my great-grandmother also...
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#1871754 - 05/12/11 05:25 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: greyfox]
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Zona Chaffin, 92, of Ash Flat died April 21, 2001, at Ash Flat Nursing and Rehabilitation Center.
Born July 8, 1909, in Sharp County, she was the daughter of John and Edith Furnace Mann. She was a homemaker and a Christian.
Survivors include a son, Aubrey Justus of Hutchinson, Kan.; four daughters Eula Mae Wilson of Dowagiac, Mich., Mary Lee Fin of Washington, Dorothy Friend of California, and Sharon Murron? of Hardy; a sister, Ruby Wilson of Dowagiac; 24 grandchildren; 40 great-great grandchildren; and 12 great-great grandchildren.
She was preceded in death by her parents, her husbands, Tom Chaffin, Clarence Justus, Harold Ratliff and Bill Palmer; three sons, James Ratliff, Shelby Ratliff and Fred Justus; three brothers and four sisters.
The funeral was April 23 at Higginbotham Chapel in Hardy with Floyd Rikard officiating. Burial followed at Buchanan cemetery in Center.
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#1871755 - 05/12/11 05:27 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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Thank-you so much, That is my uncle/great uncle Aubrey's obituary. He was a great man! I loved visiting with him:) I know that Zona Mann and Clarence Justus had three children, My grandma Eula Mae, Fred, and Aubrey, before Clarence passed. Then Zona re-married and had more children... I have searched records in many places and come up short after 1910 with Clarence. I have seen posts on other sites that had a lot of there information wrong. It is so confusing because of all the husbands and you would not thing this, but for the time period there were a lot of people named Zona and Clarence! Every bit helps... Thanks again, Jessica
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#1871757 - 05/12/11 05:28 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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She married Harold in 1931, so Clarence had for sure died by then.
Arkansas County Marriages, 1837-1957 Groom: Harold Ratliff Groom's Age: 21 Groom's Estimated Birth Year: 1910 Groom's Residence: Hardy, Sharp, Arkansas Bride: Zonia Justice Bride's Age: 22 Bride's Estimated Birth Year: 1909 Bride's Residence: Sitka, Sharp, Arkansas Marriage Date: 03 Apr 1931 Marriage License Date: 03 Apr 1931 Marriage Place: , Sharp, Arkansas, United States Film Number: 2210898 Digital Folder Number: 4309483 Image Number: 00525 Page Number: 16 Source: Arkansas County Marriage Records, 1837-1957
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#1871760 - 05/12/11 05:31 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: greyfox]
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Oh my gosh!!! I have never seen that document before.. I am so excited! I had to reply a "SUPER BIG" thank-you before I looked closely at the document. You have made my night... Thanks, Jessica
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#1871762 - 05/12/11 05:32 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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So we can assume Harold had died by 1952 because she married Bill Palmer in 1952.
Arkansas County Marriages, 1837-1957 Groom: Will Palmer Groom's Age: Groom's Estimated Birth Year: Groom's Residence: Caraway, Arkansas Bride: Zona Ratliff Bride's Age: Bride's Estimated Birth Year: Bride's Residence: Caraway, Arkansas Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1952 Marriage License Date: Marriage Place: , Craighead, Arkansas, United States Film Number: 2155819 Digital Folder Number: 4338470 Image Number: 00390 Page Number: 460 Source: Arkansas County Marriage Records, 1837-1957
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#1871766 - 05/12/11 05:35 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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Registered: 12/31/07
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I was looking for Clarence earlier and he is tough to find in the census. I was looking for Aubrey in the census as well, but it's hard to tell with whom he may have been living in 1930. So far the only one I found is Aubry E, born around 1923, and he is living with James Justus.
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#1871776 - 05/12/11 05:46 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: greyfox]
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Registered: 12/31/07
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I found them in 1930, looks like Clarence was his middle name...
United States Census 1930
Name: Aubra C Justic Event: CENSUS Event Date: 1930 Event Place: Morgan, Sharp, Arkansas Gender: Male Age: 24 Marital Status: Married Race: White Birthplace: Arkansas Estimated Birth Year: 1906 Immigration Year: Relationship to Head of Household: Head Father's Birthplace: Arkansas Mother's Birthplace: Arkansas Enumeration District Number: 14 Family Number: 82 Sheet Number and Letter: 4B Line Number: 75 NARA Publication: T626, roll 94 Film Number: 2339829 Digital Folder Number: 4532452 Image Number: 00482 Household Gender Age Aubra C Justic M 24 Spouse Zona Justic F 21 Child Aubra L Justic M 3 Child Eulah M Justic F 2 Child Fred E Justic M 1
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#1871790 - 05/12/11 06:06 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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Registered: 12/31/07
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This must be Zona's son, Shelby:
Social Security Death Index Name: Shelby E. Ratliff SSN: Last Residence: 72460 Ravenden Springs, Randolph, Arkansas, United States of America Born: 13 Jun 1934 Died: 19 Apr 1997 State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan
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#1871799 - 05/12/11 06:16 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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Registered: 12/31/07
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She married Tom Chaffin in 1980:
Arkansas Marriages, 1779-1992 Name: Thomas M. Chaffin Gender: Male Marriage Date: 1980 Spouse: Zona Palmer County: Randolph Volume: 62 Page: 600 State: Arkansas
So to summarize, she was married in 1923, 1931, 1952 and 1980. That's amazing to have your first and last marriages be 57 years apart.
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#1871804 - 05/12/11 06:21 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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This appears to be Thomas - it doesn't look they were married for very long.
Social Security Death Index Name: Thomas Chaffin SSN: Last Residence: 72460 Ravenden Springs, Randolph, Arkansas, United States of America Born: 24 May 1893 Died: Apr 1983 State (Year) SSN issued: Arkansas
According to his WWII registration, his full name was Thomas Monroe Chaffin and he was born in Kentucky. He gave his DOB as May 24, 1894.
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#1871820 - 05/12/11 06:35 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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It appears that Aubrey was married once before he married Elsa.
Arkansas County Marriages Groom: Aubrey Lee Justus Groom's Age: 20 Groom's Estimated Birth Year: 1924 Groom's Residence: Hardy, Sharp, Arkansas Bride: Julia Elizabeth Hurst Bride's Age: 19 Bride's Estimated Birth Year: 1925 Bride's Residence: Hardy, Fulton, Arkansas Marriage Date: 02 Sep 1944 Marriage License Date: 02 Sep 1944 Marriage Place: , Sharp, Arkansas, United States Film Number: 2210899 Digital Folder Number: 4309484 Image Number: 00257 Page Number: 312 Source: Arkansas County Marriage Records, 1837-1957
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#1871822 - 05/12/11 06:36 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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Arkansas County Marriages Groom: Aubrey Justus Groom's Age: Groom's Estimated Birth Year: Groom's Residence: Caraway, Arkansas Bride: Elsie Mae Kincaide Bride's Age: Bride's Estimated Birth Year: Bride's Residence: Caraway, Arkansas Marriage Date: 17 Sep 1948 Marriage License Date: Marriage Place: , Craighead, Arkansas, United States Film Number: 2155818 Digital Folder Number: 4338469 Image Number: 01312 Page Number: 209 Source: Arkansas County Marriage Records, 1837-1957
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#1872291 - 05/13/11 11:14 AM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: greyfox]
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Registered: 05/12/11
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Yes that is him thank-you! I don't know what happened to his parents. It is clear after the 1900 censes that they are missing and the children from there on are living with grand-parents or aunts and uncles! Another mystery for me to solve:) Thanks for helping I love this site and everyone on it! Jessica
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#1872296 - 05/13/11 11:23 AM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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They weren't married that long. They got married in 1980 and he died in 1983. I know my great-gradma was 76 when they got married and he was older than her!
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#1872311 - 05/13/11 11:49 AM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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Wow! Thank-you, It seems that she didn't wait long to get re-married? Thank's for the information, Jessica
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#1872463 - 05/13/11 02:52 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: greyfox]
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I am new to this site and am not sure if I am doing my replies right.. I am trying to thank everyone personally for there information but it looks like all my thank-you posts are just added to the general posts... If anyone can let me know that would be great... Thank you so much, Jessica
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#1872477 - 05/13/11 03:12 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: jessica73]
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I am new to this site and am not sure if I am doing my replies right.. I am trying to thank everyone personally for there information but it looks like all my thank-you posts are just added to the general posts... If anyone can let me know that would be great... Thank you so much, Jessica Use the quote botton to reply to a post.
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#1872656 - 05/13/11 06:30 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: duke220]
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I am new to this site and am not sure if I am doing my replies right.. I am trying to thank everyone personally for there information but it looks like all my thank-you posts are just added to the general posts... If anyone can let me know that would be great... Thank you so much, Jessica Use the quote botton to reply to a post. Thank-you.
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#1876462 - 05/17/11 06:59 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: greyfox]
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Arkansas County Marriages, 1837-1957 for Clarence Justus
Groom: Clarence Justus Groom's Age: 21 Groom's Estimated Birth Year: 1902 Groom's Residence: Center, Sharp, Arkansas Bride: Zona Mann Bride's Age: 18 Bride's Estimated Birth Year: 1905 Bride's Residence: Center, Sharp, Arkansas
I hope you got my "Thank-You" the day you posted this, I wasn't sure how to do it. So if not here is another thank-you. Marriage Date: 28 Apr 1923 Marriage License Date: 28 Apr 1923 Marriage Place: , Sharp, Arkansas, United States Film Number: 2210901 Digital Folder Number: 4309486 Image Number: 00105 Page Number: 108 Source: Arkansas County Marriage Records, 1837-1957
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#1876489 - 05/17/11 07:23 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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She married Tom Chaffin in 1980:
Arkansas Marriages, 1779-1992 Name: Thomas M. Chaffin Gender: Male Marriage Date: 1980 Spouse: Zona Palmer County: Randolph Volume: 62 Page: 600
You have given my great information so far... I cant figure out how to post a new question. Soooo I am going to ask you:/ I wanted to know if you could find any information of John M Justus of his wife Emma J Justus? Or help me start a new post? Thank-you for any information you may have.. State: Arkansas
So to summarize, she was married in 1923, 1931, 1952 and 1980. That's amazing to have your first and last marriages be 57 years apart.
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#1876807 - 05/18/11 05:43 AM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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I found them in 1930, looks like Clarence was his middle name...
United States Census 1930
Name: Aubra C Justic Event: CENSUS Event Date: 1930 Event Place: Morgan, Sharp, Arkansas Gender: Male
Age: 24 Marital Status: Married Race: White Birthplace: Arkansas Estimated Birth Year: 1906 Immigration Year: Relationship to Head of Household: Head Father's Birthplace: Arkansas Mother's Birthplace: Arkansas Enumeration District Number: 14 Family Number: 82 Sheet Number and Letter: 4B Line Number: 75 NARA Publication: T626, roll 94 Film Number: 2339829 Digital Folder Number: 4532452 Image Number: 00482 Household Gender Age Aubra C Justic M 24 Spouse Zona Justic F 21 Child Aubra L Justic M 3 Child Eulah M Justic F 2 Child Fred E Justic M 1 Yes he does:) I have found out alot from my research and everything on the 1930 census is spelled wrong. It is really Aubrey. Son's Aubrey and Fred and my grandma is Eula Mae last name is Justus... Thank-you I wouldn't have been able to put it all together with out that 1930 census. I still can't find any info on Clarence Justus's resting place or what happened to his parents:( If you have any other information on Clarence Justus or his parents John and Emma Justus it would help me greatly.
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#1876811 - 05/18/11 05:46 AM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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This appears to be Thomas - it doesn't look they were married for very long.
Social Security Death Index Name: Thomas Chaffin SSN: Last Residence: 72460 Ravenden Springs, Randolph, Arkansas, United States of America Born: 24 May 1893 Died: Apr 1983 State (Year) SSN issued: Arkansas
According to his WWII registration, his full name was Thomas Monroe Chaffin and he was born in Kentucky. He gave his DOB as May 24, 1894. They weren't... I have found that they got married when he was 80 years old and he died three years later:(
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#1876812 - 05/18/11 06:01 AM
John and Emma Justus ( Wade ) Arkansas
[Re: jessica73]
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Thank-you for all the information you guys have given me on Clarence Justus. I haven't found his final resting place yet but, this site and everyone on it have given me more information than I could have ever found myself...Now I know his full name Clarence Aubrey Justus and his parents were John and Emma Justus... If anyone has any extra information on him or him parents that would be awesome:) Clarence was born in 1905 and was living with a grand-father and then an uncle in the next few census. I can't find any information on John or Emma after the 1900 Census... PLEASE Help... Thanks, Jessica
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#1876814 - 05/18/11 06:04 AM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: jessica73]
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Thank-you for all the information you guys have given me on Clarence Justus. I haven't found his final resting place yet but, this site and everyone on it have given me more information than I could have ever found myself...Now I know his full name Clarence Aubrey Justus and his parents were John and Emma Justus... If anyone has any extra information on him or him parents that would be awesome:) Clarence was born in 1905 and was living with a grand-father and then an uncle in the next few census. I can't find any information on John or Emma after the 1900 Census... PLEASE Help... Thanks, Jessica
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#2009611 - 10/21/11 12:47 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: omikeo]
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W.B. Ratliff December 21, 1934 The Democrat
** Obituary Abstract ** Name: W.B. Ratliff Age: 45 Date of Death: December 1934 Burial: Not Given Publication Information: The Democrat (Mammoth Spring, Fulton Co., AR) Vol. XLV, No. 28, Page 3 Friday, Dec. 21, 1934
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#2009616 - 10/21/11 12:56 PM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: jessica73]
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Jessica73, My grandparents lived not too far from John and Emma Justus. This Justus family and my grandfather's were related by marriage. I too have been looking for the burial place of John and Emma Justus. Many Justus' are buried in Lone Oak Cemetery in Lawrence Co., AR. and other Lawrence Co. and Sharp Co., AR. cemeteries. Bessie Justus was married to my grandfather's brother.
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#2147534 - 04/04/12 03:17 AM
Re: Clarence Justus of Arkansas
[Re: Christina11]
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Shelby William Ratliff, also buried at the Turkey Pen Cemetery Arkansas is the son of Harold Lee Ratliff and Zona Mann.
Shelby passed from lung cancer, Shelby never had any kids.
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